4 Comments on “Get Ready To See More Of These If Public Question #2, Ongoing Minimum Wage Hikes, Passes”
It will pass. said at 8:23 am on October 18th, 2013:
Typical Dem/ lib ploy: play to the working poor, letting them think this will actually help their situation, when we know, between the healthcare debacle unfolding, and now raising the minimum, less people will be working full time, and be further behind.. In NJ, all money referenda/bills usually pass- people think it’s somebody else who pays for all of it.
Bob English said at 9:36 am on October 19th, 2013:
I know there are two sides of the coin here but note that a very high percentage people who are making minimum wage (paid by companys that make millions or billions in profits) still need to reley on govt programs such as foodstamps to put food on their familes tables and Medicaid for their healthcare. Taxpayers are paying billions for those programs.
So another way to look at it is that US taxpayers are subsizing the below poverty level wages paid buy companys making a ton of $$$
many of which, at least before the Obamacare debacle turned us into a part-time working class, offered rather uneducated folks a decent job for ok pay, with health benefits, because they are big companies, who, yes, deserve to make a profit for themselves and their shareholders.. Now, yes, we will be subsidizing them more with food stamps, etc., but I would rather help those who make an effort to work, as opposed to those who are able-bodied, but work the system to get everything for free, without working at all for it..
Bob English said at 1:12 pm on October 19th, 2013:
@and those companies: Employers have been going to part timers where they can for the past 20 years. That had nothing to do with the ACA during that time.
There is a very small percentage of people who were not already getting employer provided health benefits who have had their hours cut to 29 so the employer (of 50+ people not previously paying benefits) would not have to provide benefits under the ACA. That is an area I would like to see Congress address rather than engaging in their foolish money wasting actions of the past few weeks. With the reported loss of $24 billion in economic activity due to the shutdown (reported by all except for Fox News which is in denial) I suspect that (the govt shutdown) will have a lot more to do with killing jobs than any part of the ACA will.
Typical Dem/ lib ploy: play to the working poor, letting them think this will actually help their situation, when we know, between the healthcare debacle unfolding, and now raising the minimum, less people will be working full time, and be further behind.. In NJ, all money referenda/bills usually pass- people think it’s somebody else who pays for all of it.
I know there are two sides of the coin here but note that a very high percentage people who are making minimum wage (paid by companys that make millions or billions in profits) still need to reley on govt programs such as foodstamps to put food on their familes tables and Medicaid for their healthcare. Taxpayers are paying billions for those programs.
So another way to look at it is that US taxpayers are subsizing the below poverty level wages paid buy companys making a ton of $$$
many of which, at least before the Obamacare debacle turned us into a part-time working class, offered rather uneducated folks a decent job for ok pay, with health benefits, because they are big companies, who, yes, deserve to make a profit for themselves and their shareholders.. Now, yes, we will be subsidizing them more with food stamps, etc., but I would rather help those who make an effort to work, as opposed to those who are able-bodied, but work the system to get everything for free, without working at all for it..
@and those companies: Employers have been going to part timers where they can for the past 20 years. That had nothing to do with the ACA during that time.
There is a very small percentage of people who were not already getting employer provided health benefits who have had their hours cut to 29 so the employer (of 50+ people not previously paying benefits) would not have to provide benefits under the ACA. That is an area I would like to see Congress address rather than engaging in their foolish money wasting actions of the past few weeks. With the reported loss of $24 billion in economic activity due to the shutdown (reported by all except for Fox News which is in denial) I suspect that (the govt shutdown) will have a lot more to do with killing jobs than any part of the ACA will.