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Obama immigration order draws split GOP response from possible candidates


BOCA RATON, Fla — . President Barack Obama’s expected action on immigration is exposing different approaches in the Republican Party, evident Wednesday as six potential candidates for the party’s 2016 presidential nomination differed in how they would ease the nation’s immigration crisis. Appearing at a meeting of the Republican Governors Association, the six possible candidates were…

Posted: November 20th, 2014 | Author: | Filed under: 2016 Presidential Politics, Barack Obama | Tags: , , , | 17 Comments »

17 Comments on “Obama immigration order draws split GOP response from possible candidates”

  1. Barry said at 8:34 am on November 20th, 2014:

    Review the executive order carefully. If it only involves people we were never going after anyway it may be much ado about nothing. Remember in 2012 Newt Gingrich and Rick Perry, during the debates, said we will not deport people that now have roots here (given the lack of enforcement over the past 30 years).

  2. Tom Stokes said at 11:18 am on November 20th, 2014:

    It’s not what he’s doing, it’s HOW he’s doing it. He has NO authority to change any law; he cannot write new laws to suit his political goals.

    I agree that immigration reform is needed, but we need to absolutely control immigration into this country. With international threats rising, terrorism, drug trafficking, human trafficking, criminal threats; we also MUST control our southern and northern borders.

    Unless we restore a vibrant economy, where will these immigrants obtain jobs? They will further depress wages of Americans in the lower socio-economic sphere and undermine the middle class.

    Immigrants are usually very hard workers, unfortunately, not too many are highly skilled workers. We need to revise immigration standards to bring in highly skilled workers to help improve our economy here, and stop shipping jobs overseas to China and India.

    We have a President, not an Imperial Emperor.

    If any more child immigrants die in the trek accross Mexico due to this presiden’ts reckless action, he should be charged as he has caused their deaths.

    Oh, if the President does not have to obey the laws Congress writes, why does anyone else have to obey any laws?

  3. Exactly,Tom, said at 6:56 pm on November 20th, 2014:

    what part of lawless, unilateral, unconstitutional action by an imperial, arrogant and spoiled brat, who just got his political clock cleaned, do some people not get? This it, folks, the GOP let’s him get away with this, there is NOTHING you think of he can’t or won’t try: if I was the RNC chair, today, I’d have a paid response, right after the speech on Telemundo,on every major network, by a Susanna Martinez or Marco Rubio, in both Spanish and English, explaining why this is the wrong approach, why and how they need to live under the same rules they and we do, and what we will do better, going forward, to give them real opportunities they can EARN to become citizens, not the pathetic handouts that are breaking spirits, and the taxpayers, every single day! This cannot stand! We MUST act!

  4. Tom Stokes said at 9:55 pm on November 20th, 2014:

    I hope the GOP legislators don’t take the bait to shut down the government, that’s not the answer.

    Why not defund the White House operation, since it is so far out of control?

    No more funds for the President’s trips, expensive vacations, etc. Every other working man or woman pays for their own vacations. Let him pay for his.

    Cut the White House’s operations budget by 50%.

    Since he lied to us (keep your doctor, keep your insurance, it’s not a tax) he doesn’t need taxpayer paid spokespersons. Let him pay for them.

    No more plane trips at taxpayer expense.

    Since the Secret Service has shown how they behave, reduce expenses for that operation as well.

    It’s time to show the Emperor he has no clothes.

  5. Geraldo said at 6:32 am on November 21st, 2014:

    QUOTE ” Republicans had it coming. They allowed their House Leadership to be rendered irrelevant by anti-immigration radicals like Steve King of Iowa and Mo Brooks of Alabama.”

    GERALDO, you are a fool – The Democrats controlled Congress for two years and had plenty of opportunity to pass immigration reform.

    And this is the guy that “headlined” the Gala?

    http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/opinion/2014/11/20/geraldo-rivera-ya-era-hora-about-time-part-one/

    Never liked him before, despise him now

  6. Bob English said at 8:10 am on November 21st, 2014:

    The Senate did pass bipartisan comprehensive immigration reform over a year and a half ago. It’s supported by a large majority of the American people and the bill would have a good chance of passing the House if a vote had been allowed. Not only did Boehner not allow a vote (apparently out of fear of the far right) they did nothing on the issue themselves despite pleas from the President to take action.

    The entire issue could still be resolved rather quickly. Allow a vote in the House on the Senate bill and if it passes it passes. If it falls a few votes short, the House can amend the Senate bill enough to get a additional support. If however the House leadership continues to do nothing, they can’t blame the President on doing whatever he legally can on the issue (just as prior Republican Presidents did on occasion.)

  7. Sancho Panza said at 11:44 am on November 21st, 2014:

    @” Not only did Boehner not allow a vote (apparently out of fear of the far right) they did nothing on the issue themselves despite pleas from the President to take action.”

    Talk about a bald-faced double standard. There is absolutely no constitutional mandate to make the House of Representatives do any action that it does not want to do. As we have seen the Senate do so clearly under Harry Reid for the last four years. Or maybe when Democrats do exactly the same thing, it is perfectly all right. The very definition of hypocrisy!

  8. Inquiring Mind said at 12:07 pm on November 21st, 2014:

    to bob english…

    RE: “they did nothing on the issue themselves”

    Why didn’t the Democrats do immigration reform when they controlled both houses and the Presidency?

    They have no one to blame but themselves. This is all a political stunt to blame Republicans.

    As Sancho said above, you ought to be looking at Harry regarding obstructionism. But then, you always turn a blind eye towards your loved Democrats.

    Your hypocrisy always shows well here on this blog. But, we know that now and no one really believes the points you make anymore.

    I am sure you are a fine person, but all you seem to do is mouth Democrat talking points.

  9. Bob English said at 1:17 pm on November 21st, 2014:

    @ Inquiring Mind…you can believe or not believe whatever you want. The fact is what I posted is a matter of public record and 100% true. Bottom line is that rather than blaming Harry Reid?????…LOL…or what the Dem’s did or did not do in the past, the fact is that the Senate passed a comprehensive bipartisan bill 516 days ago and the Republicans in the House have done NOTHING….not even allow a vote on that bill since they are apparently scared that it will pass.

  10. Sancho Panza said at 2:14 pm on November 21st, 2014:

    @”Bottom line is that rather than blaming Harry Reid?????…LOL…or what the Dem’s did or did not do in the past”
    Yup, that’s right. The hell with history. Facts don’t matter when an ideologue is at work.

  11. @bob english said at 8:30 am on November 22nd, 2014:

    I love your selective outrage. There are many bills that languished in the senate that harry reid tabled because they could either pass or prove to be politically damaging if came to a vote. welcome to the world of a bi-cameral legislature. The reason the immigration bill never came to a vote was the feeling (based on his past actions) that Obama had no intention of fulfilling the boarder security aspect of the bill (bill just stated DHS had to declare the boarder secure there were no objective criteria included in the bill), and would via executive order gut the bill as written by the Senate.

  12. @bob english said at 8:33 am on November 22nd, 2014:

    Sorry for the typo border not barder although we have plenty of illegal boarders so I guess it is a Freudian slip. Also I am sorry I did not capitalize Harr reid or Senate.

  13. @ @Bob English said at 10:07 am on November 22nd, 2014:

    re your quote:

    “The reason the immigration bill never came to a vote was the feeling (based on his past actions)”

    Well put, but ideologues like Bob English don’t care about facts, they care only about selective history. The truth is that Harry Reid exemplifies obstructionism. Poor old Bob just wants to keep his head in the sand.

    Seal the border first, especially now that Obama flaunted the Constitution All this fool of a President did was to invite more to cross the border with this carrot; knowing that we are suckers and there will be future amnesty.

    No, I wouldn’t trust anyone that supports a comprehensive immigration plan. Reagan did that, expecting the border to be sealed. It never happened and millions more came.

    Seal the border first.

    “inquiring.”

  14. Sancho Panza said at 1:27 am on November 23rd, 2014:

    @”The reason the immigration bill never came to a vote was the feeling (based on his past actions) that Obama had no intention of fulfilling the boarder security aspect of the bill (bill just stated DHS had to declare the boarder secure there were no objective criteria included in the bill), and would via executive order gut the bill as written by the Senate.”

    Even more ridiculous is the assertion that the G.O.P. blocked all action. The House actually passed an immigration bill with border security, as even the Voice of America just had to report:

    “Cindy Saine
    August 01, 2014 12:14 PM
    CAPITOL HILL—

    The Republican-led U.S. House of Representatives has approved a $694-million funding bill to secure the U.S southern border and address the humanitarian crisis from an influx of children from Central America.

    The Senate, which already left for a five-week recess, is not expected to consider the bill.”

    Get the OP a short-wave radio.

  15. Bob English said at 8:28 am on November 23rd, 2014:

    So you can all blame Harry Reid and the fact that the D’s did not pass a bill on their own in prior years for the fact that a Senate passed bipartisan comprehensive immigration reform bill (that is supported by the President) has been sitting in the House gathering dust for over 500+ days while Boehner refuses to allow a vote on it….like it or not those are the facts.

    It’s laughable to be claim obstructionism on Harry Reid’s part when the right wing R’s in the House are the ones that will not allow a vote on a bill which has a good chance of passing.

  16. @bob english said at 10:36 am on November 23rd, 2014:

    Again there are numerous bills languishing in the Senate that would also pass the Senate if there was a vote but Harry Reid tabled the bills. I repeat in a bicameral legislature that is a fact of life. Why shouod Boehner allow a defective bill to be voted on? You state it was bi partisan,many of the Republicans that voted for the bill in 2013, would not vote for it today because they lost trust in the President executing the laws of the land.

  17. Sancho Panza said at 9:58 pm on November 23rd, 2014:

    The fact stands that the statement, “The House leadership continues to do nothing,”
    is palpably and maliciously untrue. Factual history and accuracy do not seem to carry much weight with the slavishly loyal partisan ideologues led by the Liar-in-Chief.